{"id":4894,"date":"2015-06-27T20:31:05","date_gmt":"2015-06-28T00:31:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/afutureworththinkingabout.com\/?p=4894"},"modified":"2025-04-15T21:34:21","modified_gmt":"2025-04-16T01:34:21","slug":"thinking-about-the-worth-of-the-future-logistics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/afutureworththinkingabout.com\/?p=4894","title":{"rendered":"Thinking About the Worth of the Future: Logistics"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/afutureworththinkingabout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/20150627_2101251.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-4900\" src=\"https:\/\/afutureworththinkingabout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/20150627_2101251-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"20150627\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" data-wp-editing=\"1\" srcset=\"https:\/\/afutureworththinkingabout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/20150627_2101251-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/afutureworththinkingabout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/06\/20150627_2101251-1024x576.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">I&#8217;ve been trying to take a little time, these past few days, to talk about money. To talk about the framework and architecture of where A Future Worth Thinking About is going and what we will be doing as we integrate with <a href=\"http:\/\/technoccult.net\">Technoccult.net<\/a>. There was even going to be this whole thing about how I literally don&#8217;t know how to juggle. But after losing the post (twice), I&#8217;ve decided that the tone of that post just wasn&#8217;t the way to go.<\/p>\n<p>I know we&#8217;re usually encouraged to not discuss anything as gauche as cash, in Western Society, but since we&#8217;re somehow still <i><b>using<\/b><\/i> a system of psychologically transferred and collectively-agreed-upon value to determine who gets to eat food, I say fuck it. Let&#8217;s talk it out. So let&#8217;s just get to it:<\/p>\n<p>When I started A Future Worth Thinking About, last year, I wanted it to be the main face of my major writing projects. I wanted it to be the place where I could host podcasts and vlogs. I wanted it to be the project name that people thought of when they were looking for my large nonacademic essays. In short, I wanted it to be the umbrella under which I could do everything that mattered to me. Thing is, I only ever saw it being this <em><strong>in addition to<\/strong><\/em> everything else I had on my plate.<\/p>\n<p>For those of you just meeting me, this isn&#8217;t my only gig. I write, I teach, I guest blog, I appear on podcasts, I organize conventions and book signings, I consult on projects, I edit, I research, and a part of me has always seen these as separate actions, all being done in the service of keeping me moving, interested, fed, clothed, sheltered, alive. I somehow couldn&#8217;t see them as a single (intricate, complex, balanced) process, each component acting as input into, modulation condition upon, and output of the collective workings of the others with itself. Which is weird, right? Because that&#8217;s basically a really broad description of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bu.edu\/wcp\/Papers\/Cont\/ContSato.htm\">a cybernetic system<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s taken me this long, but I&#8217;m seeing that all of these things can all be one thing. This thing, right here. And so, as this has come together I&#8217;ve noticed, as I noted elsewhere this week, that I keep catching myself running the calculation in my head of how much money these projects\u2014this project\u2014needs to net me on a monthly basis, before it can be my primary source of income. And it&#8217;s a number I can actually wrap my head around.<\/p>\n<p>Now, it&#8217;s usually considered impolite, gauche, boorish, whatever, to talk about money, but if you&#8217;re even here, reading this particular sentence, then chances are <strong><em>pretty good<\/em><\/strong> that you know that this venture is A) my life&#8217;s work, and B) supported in largest part by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/Wolven\">Patreon<\/a> subscriptions. Which is nice because Patreon&#8217;s architecture has built-in milestones, to make everyone involved feel like they&#8217;re doing really great work, and can have some sort of immediate gratification, because we all like that. But the thing of it is, I also work retail. I do so because have a gap in my income, between AFWTA and teaching. But I think this has also reflected a gap in my thinking, because my Patreon milestone goals previously topped out at $400 per month.<\/p>\n<p>USD$400 per month is the level at which felt I could cut down on retail work enough\u2014<em><strong>enough<\/strong><\/em>\u2014to focus on teaching and the kinds of audio visual work I want to do on this site. But I&#8217;ve realised that that&#8217;s intermediate thinking and that, ultimately, I want to be able to do only this.<\/p>\n<p>In order to work <em><strong>only<\/strong><\/em> on AFWTA (and probably teach one or two classes a semester, because I love teaching)\u2014that is, in order to have time to research, make, edit, and transcribe (or record) essays, podcasts, video chats, and interviews\u2014I need to be making at least USD$2,000 per month, or roughly ten times what I&#8217;m making, right now. So do I expect that this will happen, tomorrow? No. It&#8217;d be <em><strong>super<\/strong> <\/em>nice, but it&#8217;s just not going to be that soon. But I think it <em><strong>is<\/strong><\/em> attainable in the near future, if we work together: You engaging the material and telling people about how much you love what we do on this site, and me doing the work of writing and talking with you and everything else I listed.<\/p>\n<p>Building a multimedia empire is no small task, so, lest you think I&#8217;m flying totally chartless, here&#8217;s my foregrounding for what I want this to become:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>AFWTA will be the overarching linchpin, with radial arms of Writing, Podcasting, Video Chats, Interviews, etc.<\/li>\n<li>Video and audio conversations about the intersection of philosophy, technology, religion, the occult, and pop culture will appear on Technoccult.net<\/li>\n<li>Longer essays will appear here.<\/li>\n<li>There will be an email newsletter that goes out on a regular basis from Technoccult.<\/li>\n<li>Patreon Subscribers will receive first sends of the newsletter, with extras, in addition to other subscriber benefits.<\/li>\n<li>If the newsletter contains more than just a series of ruminations, anything like a longer essay will be refined and posted here.<\/li>\n<li>Links to external appearances (essays, podcasts, etc.) will appear in the same order as newsletters, with a shorter interval in between.<\/li>\n<li>There may or may not be short-form ruminations on links and small bits of news, here, or we might save that for Tumblr. We&#8217;ll play that by ear.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>There are some specifics I&#8217;m leaving out, like exactly what the various podcasts and guest interviews will look like, and where else I&#8217;ll be writing but trust me: It all interlocks. But, again, I need your help to get to the point where I can do this as well as I possibly can. You&#8217;ve all entrusted me with your attention and some of you have done so with your funds, and I appreciate that more than you may yet understand. It&#8217;s <em><strong>because <\/strong><\/em>of all of you\u2014<a href=\"http:\/\/needcoffee.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Widgett<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/yournerdisshowing.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Grumpyhawk<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/tinyletter.com\/metafoundry\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Debbie<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/lifewinning\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ingrid<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/klintfinley.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Klint<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/orbitaloperations.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Warren<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/milkfed.us3.list-manage.com\/subscribe?u=81b61b9d7a7a625de4e397bda&amp;id=b047570269\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">House DeFraction<\/a> and <em><strong>so many others<\/strong>\u2014<\/em>that I can even <em><strong>think<\/strong><\/em> about this project in this way.<\/p>\n<p>And now I&#8217;m asking that we trust each other a little further, so that we can make this the best possible creation we can imagine. If you&#8217;re already a subscriber, then thank you for doing everything you can. If you&#8217;re a reader but not a subscriber, then i would like to ask you to please consider a monthly subscription at Any of these levels:<\/p>\n<p><strong>$1.00+ Reward: <\/strong>Access to all written, audio, or video updates, and my thanks.<\/p>\n<p><strong>$5.00+ Reward: <\/strong>All $1 rewards, but my thanks to you is done in a special audio message for folks to hear.<\/p>\n<p><strong>$10.00+ Reward: <\/strong>All $1 and $5 rewards, plus: Suggest a topic of research and investigation. Your name and suggestion go in the hat and we pull them out, at random.<\/p>\n<p><strong>$20.00+ Reward: <\/strong>Every other reward level, access to behind the scenes process work (including excerpts from drafts of the book(s) that may eventually come of this) and who knows what else?! Maybe a special thank you, maybe a Twitter shoutout from someone or other. Who. Even. Knows. It&#8217;s a mystery!<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/technoccult.tumblr.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Technoccult Tumblr is here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Twitter handles are @<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/wolven\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Wolven <\/a>and @<a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/techn0ccult\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Techn0ccult<\/a><\/p>\n<p>The Perfunctory <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/mutate0?fref=ts\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Facebook Page is here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>You can sign up for <a href=\"http:\/\/tinyletter.com\/technoccult\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the newsletter here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>And as always, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/Wolven\">the Patreon is here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s enough, for now. I need to go get back to work on some more substantive posts. See you next time. 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