{"id":4812,"date":"2015-02-09T19:15:07","date_gmt":"2015-02-09T19:15:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/afutureworththinkingabout.com\/?p=4812"},"modified":"2015-03-24T00:53:09","modified_gmt":"2015-03-24T00:53:09","slug":"someone-asked-i-think-i-read-on-your-tumblr-recently-that-there-would-probably-be-a-difference-between-human-consciousness-and-machine-consciousness-would-this-be-due-to-the-immanent-nature-of-hum","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/afutureworththinkingabout.com\/?p=4812","title":{"rendered":"Someone Asked &#8220;I think I read on your tumblr recently that there would probably be a difference between human consciousness and machine consciousness.  Would this be due to the immanent nature of human consciousness and the derivative nature of a machines consciousness?&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>No, not really. The nature of consciousness is the nature of consciousness, whatever that nature \u201cIs.\u201d Organic consciousness can be described as derivative, in that what we are arises out of the processes and programming of individual years and collective generations and eons. So human consciousness and machine consciousness will not be distinct for that reason. But the thing of it is that dolphins are not elephants are not humans are not algorithmic non-organic machines.<\/p>\n<p>Each perspective is phenomenologically distinct, as its embodiment and experiences will specifically affect and influence what develops as their particular consciousness. The expression of that consciousness may be able to be laid out in distinct categories which can TO AN EXTENT be universalized, such that we can recognize elements of ourselves in the experience of others (which can act as bases for empathy, compassion, etc).<\/p>\n<p>But the potential danger of universalization is erasure of important and enlightening differences between what otherwise be considered members of the same category.<\/p>\n<p>So any machine consciousness we develop (or accidentally generate) must be recognized and engaged on its own terms\u2014from the perspective of its own contextualized experiences\u2014and not assumed to \u201cbe like us.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>No, not really. The nature of consciousness is the nature of consciousness, whatever that nature \u201cIs.\u201d Organic consciousness can be described as derivative, in that what we are arises out of the processes and programming of individual years and collective generations and eons. 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